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The Real age...of Jesus when he ascended (part4)
09-23-2014, 04:53 PM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2015 07:24 PM by Sajih.)
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The Real age...of Jesus when he ascended (part4)
Part 4


The real age of Jesus :

If we refresh your memories and go to John 8:56-58



Jesus said to the Jews , "Abraham your father rejoiced to see my day; he saw it and was glad "

so the Jews said to him
"You are not yet fifty (years old) and have seen Abraham?"

Jesus said to them ,”Amen Amen I say to you before Abraham came to be I am."

Before we continue brothers and sisters;
we have just uncovered one of the biggest conspiracies made in the history of humanity by the scribes historians and scholars in the first half of verse 57

For over 2000 years History has falsely claimed that Jesus supposedly died at the age 33
where here we have the Jews and with conviction

admitting ......that Jesus is around fifty years of age..... and is obviously still alive and in good health as he is in clear dialogue with the Pharisees
How Bizzare!


now there is only around 17 years or so difference between 33 and 50 they were not far off were they ???…………

this however does not mean that Jesus was around 50 yrs old when he ascended;

.....Keep the number 17 in the back of your minds for now..
As later we will reveal its importance in finding the clues to the real age of Jesus when he ascended for the final time.

It is hard to imagine Jesus started his ministry at the age of 30 then supposedly dying at the age of 33;

How on earth can he cover all those vast areas on foot in just 3 years ?.......and with limited resources.

Not only that in John 21:25

It states
Now there are many other things that Jesus did if they were all written down one by one I suppose that the whole world could not hold the books that could be written

Given the enormous context of the above verse especially where the disciples themselves give witness that the whole world could not hold the books that could be written about Jesus

It really strains the brain to believe Jesus done all of the above in just three years don’t you think…. my dear brothers and sisters
What a serious insult to our intelligence!

when we go to verse John 13:33 -35 we find Jesus addressing his disciples as my children.

It is important to note that Jesus only addressed his disciples as my children, and this was clearly when they were together on their own in private.
That is why he stressed in

John 13:13 (NAB)
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Master,' and rightly so, for indeed I am."



At absolutely no time did Jesus ever address the public with my children as the scholars have falsely interpreted and made the poor souls to believe…..that Jesus is Our Father

for this is clearly not true!

But he made it very clear in Matthew 12:46-50
That anybody that believes in his father ("My God and your God " as he clearly stated in John20:17)
Is his brother and mother

At ABSOLUTELY no time did Jesus state he was their father!


When we take a closer look at the text of John 13:33 and apply to our modern day… we can liken it

To a primary shool teacher addressing his or her underage students.

It is common practise for a primary school teacher to address his or her students as children or as kids

because of the huge age barrier and clearly not because she or he is the actual parent.y

For if the students were in the same age bracket as the teacher….. then he or she

would clearly not address their pupils as children……….. It is common sense

So in hindsight of this…. when we go back and look at the average age of the disciples

They would have been around 50 yrs of age

Some…. maybe more ….like St Peter……………. who was around 67 when he died and this took place not long after Jesus ascended for the last time

So how can Jesus….. who according to the corrupt historians and scholars at the age of 33

address Peter who is in his sixties as…. my child .?

This clearly does not make sense!

So common sense would indicate that Jesus was much… much older than 50 when he ascended to heaven.
And to further prove this point…. the birth of Jesus is very dubious as well.

For indeed when we go to Matthew 2verse 1 we find Jesus born in the days of herrod and then we find Joseph and Mary fleeing to Egypt in matt 2:19

This indicates Jesus was born around 3 or 4 bc

And yet when we go to Luke 2 we find Jesus born under Cyrenis governor of Syria and .this did not take place till at least 10 years after herrods death

So as it stands Matthew states Jesus was born 3-4 bc and Luke states Jesus was born at least 10 ad………. how ironic.!

So the historians scholars and scribes have a lot to answer for their deceit.

But we have by the grace of God been able to identify the answer to this question as we have to a lot of missing questions

and from the Quran that Jesus himself passed on through the angel Gabriel to the .prophet Mohammad.



When we go to surah 3 verse 46 where God prophecises about Jesus

He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity

Apart from the miracle birth of Jesus

we have just discovered another miracle that has been maliciously deleted from the bible by the corrupt scribes

The fact that Jesus spoke to Mary in a cradle ………..
In fact he even spoke to her whilst he was in her Blessed womb (surah 19:23-24)


How many times do we see on our television sets little kids saying one word here and there and we find the world going in a frenzy over them

Here we have baby Jesus having full on conversations With his blessed virgin mother Mary from within her womb….. and speaking to other mature people around her….

And from a cradle!…………..




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The other side of this important verse is that Jesus spoke to people in maturity

Maturity back in those days could have been anything over 100 yrs old just like Moses and Abraham who both lived to mature ages of over 100


We can see that the clues are getting warmer and warmer

Once again it is not till we get to Psalm 71(17 backward )
that we find the most damming evidence where we find Jesus talking about himself


Psalms Chapter 71

Viewing the Standard King James Version.


1 In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.
2 Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape: incline thine ear unto me, and save me.
3 Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me; for thou art my rock and my fortress.
4 Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man.
5 For thou art my hope, O Lord GOD: thou art my trust from my youth.
6 By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.
7 I am as a wonder unto many; but thou art my strong refuge.
8 Let my mouth be filled with thy praise and with thy honour all the day.
9 Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth. (proof of Jesus old aged)
10 For mine enemies speak against me; and they that lay wait for my soul take counsel together,
11 Saying, God hath forsaken him: persecute and take him; for there is none to deliver him.
12 O God, be not far from me: O my God, make haste for my help.
13 Let them be confounded and consumed that are adversaries to my soul; let them be covered with reproach and dishonour that seek my hurt.
14 But I will hope continually, and will yet praise thee more and more.
15 My mouth shall shew forth thy righteousness and thy salvation all the day; for I know not the numbers thereof.
16 I will go in the strength of the Lord GOD: I will make mention of thy righteousness, even of thine only.
17 O God, thou hast taught me from my youth: and hitherto have I declared thy wondrous works.
18 Now also when I am old and grayheaded, O God, forsake me not; until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation, and thy power to every one that is to come. (proof of Jesus old aged)

(proof of Jesus old age


19 Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!
20 Thou, which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the earth.(10 ascensions)

21 Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.
22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth, O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.
23 My lips shall greatly rejoice when I sing unto thee; and my soul, which thou hast redeemed.
24 My tongue also shall talk of thy righteousness all the day long: for they are confounded, for they are brought unto shame, that seek my hurt.




HOWEVER IT IS NOT UNTIL WE


go to surah 5 verse 117

THAT WE ARE FINALLY ABLE TO PIECE THE PUZZLE TOGETHER


Where it is written about Jesus


I said not to them except what you commanded me to worship Allah my Lord and your Lord

And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them but when you took me up
You were the Observer over them and you are over all things witness.

Which ironically matches what Jesus said in
John 20:17
New International Version
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"


Brothers and Sisters the clues are right here under our noses

when Jesus says when you took me up. When we read the words over again slowly

when you took me up

it is clear Jesus is referring to a time or a number that he ascended in and clearly not a place.

This vital clue clearly leads us in the direction of the verse number which is 117



If we take a hard look at the verse number it reads. 117

And sure enough when we go to the text of John 17:11 we find the the matching text

John 17:11New English Translation (NET Bible)

11 I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you.

It points to Mark 7:11. (Nab) which when added backwards gives us 117
And where
we find the Arabic word Qorban which connects the bible to the Quran
11 symbolises the 11 disciples as Judas was crucified
And the number 7 represents Gods victory number

it stands for 7 heavens as well as 7 days
it stands for the 7th ascension of Jesus which had the heading the triumphant entry into Jerasulem
it stands for the master key verse of Acts 7:38 which when added reads 7 11 (117 backwards)

it also symbolises 7 entry laps and 7 exit laps of worship around .the house of God

Brothers and sisters as you can see the Qoran not only has word interpretation but numerical interpretation as well

Indeed when you go to chapter 17 of John and psalm 17
You will find the text about Jesus being Glorified
Just as in psalm 7:17 and psalm 18:17

We can now clearly see that the number 17 refers to the Age of Jesus when he ascended.



And to further support this claim; when we go to chapter 215 of the gospel of Barnabis we find two distinct numbers that are present in the text

One is 367 where .Jesus is saved to the third heaven and one is 368 where Judas is arrested and transformed to look and sound in every way like Jesus.

When we examine these numbers carefully beginning with 368 we find that it ironically totals 117

This now leaves us with the epic question of trying to find the birth of Jesus
when we examine the number 367 it leads us

Back to the
text of john 8:57

when the Jews said to Jesus you are not yet 50 ……….
the number 50 clearly points us to the year 50 ad when Jesus really ascended to heaven for the last time

when we deduct 50 from 117 we get 67 the last 2 numbers of 367 which translates to 67 bc as the real birth year of Jesus

(Era of Julius Ceasar)
and the 3 stands for the month

for according to the text of luke 1:26
the angel Gabriel was sent to Mary in he 6th month and was told she was going to conceive Jesus
a normal pregnancy term is 9 months

when we calculate 9 months from June we end up with march the number which matches the 3 in 367

(DUE TO RECENT DAMNING EVIDENCE REVEALED IN THREAD: Heresies and lies from the bible Seeds of deception 1 & 2.......................... the birthdate of Jesus has been now officially changed to 1/7/67 B.C)



the age of Jesus at 117 is more realistic with the epic text of John 21: 25 where the disciples themselves gave witness to the maturity of Jesus by stating and I repeat

Now there are many other things that Jesus did if they were all written down one by one I suppose that the whole world could not hold the books that would be written.



This now has seriously exposed the devil through his servants the historians and scholars who have clearly tampered with the true dates and times of history
To deceive the world

What a dire tragedy indeed !





Having come to this truth the world now eagerly awaits an answer to two of the most important questions
In our 2014 year old history



Firstly

Having come to the obvious truth that Jesus was not born on Christmas day

I was anxious to find out the answer to the dark secret of

Whos birthday has the world celebrated for the last 2013 years.?

After a brief search I was able to obtain the answer which came about with a lot of emotion and anxiety (google Sol Invictus)


To my complete shock
It became apparent to me after connecting the dots that for 2013 years the world was and continues to unknowingly celebrate the festival of the sol Invictus

Which tragically for the world especially the Christians is the Roman SUN GOD

This article is about the Roman sun god. For other uses of Sol Invictus, see Sol Invictus (disambiguation).

Coin of Emperor Probus, circa 280, with Sol Invictus riding a quadriga, with legend SOLI INVICTO, "to the Unconquered Sun": the Emperor (at left) wears a radiated solar crown, worn also by the god on the obverse
Sol Invictus ("Unconquered Sun") was the official sun god of the later Roman Empire and a patron of soldiers. In 274 the Roman emperor Aurelian made it an official cult alongside the traditional Roman cults. Scholars disagree whether the new deity was a refoundation of the ancient Latin cult of Sol,[1] a revival of the cult of Elagabalus[2] or completely new.[3] The god was favored by emperors after Aurelian and appeared on their coins until Constantine.[4] The last inscription referring to Sol Invictus dates to 387 AD[5] and there were enough devotees in the 5th century that Augustine found it necessary to preach against them.[6]
The idea, particularly popular in the 18th and 19th centuries, that the date of 25 December forChristmas was selected in order to correspond with the Roman festival of Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, or "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", is challenged today.




t the Actian Games were radiate.[34]
Sol Invictus and Christianity and JudaismEdit

Mosaic of Christ as Sol or Apollo-Helios in Mausoleum M in the pre-4th-century necropolis beneath[35] St. Peter's in the Vatican, which many interpret as representing Christ
The Philocalian calendar of AD 354 gives a festival of "Natalis Invicti" on 25 December. There is limited evidence that this festival was celebrated before the mid-4th century.[36][37]
The idea that Christians chose to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25 December because this was the date of an already existing festival of the Sol Invictus was expressed in an annotation to a manuscript of a work by 12th-century Syrian bishop Jacob Bar-Salibi. The scribe who added it wrote: "It was a custom of the Pagans to celebrate on the same 25 December the birthday of the Sun, at which they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and revelries the Christians also took part. Accordingly when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true Nativity should be solemnised on that day." [38]
This idea became popular especially in the 18th and 19th centuries.[39][40][41]
In the judgement of the Church of England Liturgical Commission, this view has been seriously challenged[42] by a view based on an old tradition, according to which the date of Christmas was fixed at nine months after 25 March, the date of the vernal equinox, on which the Annunciation was celebrated.[43] The Jewish calendar date of 14 Nisan was believed to be that of the beginning of creation, as well as of the Exodus and so of Passover, and Christians held that the new creation, both the death of Jesus and the beginning of his human life, occurred on the same date, which some put at 25 March in the Julian calendar.[42][44][45] It was a traditional Jewish belief that great men lived a whole number of years, without fractions, so that Jesus was considered to have been conceived on 25 March,
Silent text (this confirms our earlier findings that Jesus was born in march)
Ref …..google Sol Invictus


Knowing too well Jesus was not crucified at all and that he clearly did not die at the age of 33 as history has falsely claimed

Poses the obvious second most important question which is

Who is the mystery person that Christians have been deceived into worshipping for 2014 yrs
believing he was crucified and died at the age of 33

Having had the added advantage of knowing the first answer… had a clear connection with the roman empire

It was not hard……. to sift through the heirachy of the romans to find an obvious match for an obvious death at 33

And before long I was able to
Identify the mystery figure that the devil was able to manifest himself……. in for 2014 years

I have to warn you my brothers and sisters……. this may be too distressing for some people



This mysterious dark figure is none other than Germanicus Julius Ceasar (direct link to Ceasar)
(google germanicus Julius ceasar)











Germanicus


For other uses, see Germanicus (disambiguation).
Germanicus Julius Caesar


Bust of Germanicus
Spouse Agrippina the Elder

Issue Nero Caesar
Drusus Caesar
Caligula, Emperor of Rome
Agrippina the Younger, Empress of Rome
Julia Drusilla
Julia Livilla

Father Nero Claudius Drusus

Mother Antonia Minor

Born 24 May 15 BC
Rome, Italia, Roman Empire

Died 10 October AD 19 (aged 33)
Antioch, Syria, Roman Empire

Burial Mausoleum of Augustus

Germanicus Julius Caesar (24 May 15 BC – 10 October AD 19), commonly known as Germanicus, was a member of the Julio-Claudian dynasty and a prominent general of the early Roman Empire. He was born in Rome, Italia, and was named either Nero Claudius Drusus after his father or Tiberius Claudius Nero after his uncle. He received the agnomen Germanicus in 9 BC, when it was posthumously awarded to his father in honour of his victories inGermania.
His own campaigns in Germania made him famous after avenging the defeat at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest and retrieving the legion's eagles lost during the battle. Germanicus was the grandson-in-law and great-nephew of theEmperor Augustus, nephew and adoptive son of the Emperor Tiberius, father of the Emperor Caligula, brother of the Emperor Claudius, and the maternal grandfather of the Emperor Nero.

The devil was successful in deceiving the world especially the christians that Jesus died at the age of 33 and through cruxifixion so that they can give worship to him through the roman sun God Sol Invictus and through his servant Germanicus Julius ceasar who did indeed die at the age of 33 and who is a branch of Julius Ceasar himself.

And not surprisingly….. when we google st Germanicus ; he comes up once again… as do all the servants of the devil on the catholic online web address


So in summing up

without going to the added strain of crunching numbers and looking for secret codes to solve the mystery of the number 666
It is really not hard to ascertain after what we have horrendously exposed

That this number clearly represents

EMPIRE JULIUS CEASAR
6 6 6





This has now totally shone the light on the true picture of what Jesus warned us about in Mark 13:21-22
Where he stated



“THEN, IF ANYONE SAYS TO YOU; LOOK HERE IS THE MESSIAH! OR, LOOK THERE HE IS!

DO NOT BELIEVE IT. FOR FALSE MESSIAHS AND FALSE PROPHETS WILL APPEAR.

THEY WILL PERFORM MIRACLES AND WONDERS IN ORDER TO DECIEVE

EVEN GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE, IF POSSIBLE. BE ON YOUR GUARD I HAVE TOLD YOU EVERYTHING AHEAD OF TIME.”
And what he clearly spoke about in
revelations 14:11


11 And the smoke from their torture will go up forever and ever, and those who worship the beast and his image will have no rest day or night, along with anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12 This requires the steadfast endurance of the saints—those who obey God’s commandments and hold to their faith in Jesus.


I want to ask you my brothers and sisters
How many households throughout the ends of the earth have the picture of the false Messiah and the image of the cross in their dwellings?

How many churches throughout the ends of the earth have the symbol of the cross as well as the image of the false messiah and his servants inside them?



I want to ask you my brothers and sisters how many thousands of miracles have occurred throughout history and continue to occur today with the image of the false messiah and his cross?
How many generations before us and now us…. including me previously have worshipped the false messiah and received his mark of the cross whether in baptism marriage death in prayer……

OR IN A TATTOO (Levictus 19:28)

“Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves .

I AM THE LORD”

What do we say to those generations of grandmothers mothers and sisters who prayed the

rosary and continue to pray giving worship to the crucifix and the image of the false messiah

Thinking they have earnt the reward of eternal life

How tragic for those generations of lost souls

especially the Christians who died in this deceit thinking they were going to earn the reward of heaven

when in reality they have earned the reward of eternal hell


Where Jesus tells us and I strongly reiterate from

revelations 14:11


11 And the smoke from their torture will go up forever and ever, and those who worship the beast and his image will have no rest day or night, along with anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12 This requires the steadfast endurance of the saints—those who obey God’s commandments and hold to their faith in Jesus.

It is to this HORRIFIC end that Jesus prophecised THE LIVING MESSAGES OF GOD back in exodus 20:3-7

WORSHIP NO GOD BUT ME

DO NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELVES IMAGES OF ANYTHING IN HEAVAN OR ON EARTH OR IN THE WATER UNDER THE EARTH

DO NOT BOW DOWN TO ANY IDOL OR WORSHIP IT

BECAUSE I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD AND I TOLERATE NO RIVALS

I BRING PUNISHMENT ON THOSE WHO HATE ME AND ON THEIR DESCENDANTS

DOWN TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION

BUT I SHOW MY LOVE TO THOUSANDS OF GENERATIONS OF THOSE

WHO LOVE ME AND OBEY MY LAWS

DO NOT USE MY NAME FOR EVIL PURPOSES BECAUSE

I THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL PUNISH ANYONE WHO

MISUSES MY NAME


It is to this HORRIFIC end that Jesus was alluding to in Matthew 10:28 (NIV) when he said

“Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul rather be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell

It is to this HORRIFIC end that Jesus alluded to in Luke 13;verses 1 to 5

Now there were some present on that occasion who told him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices

He answered them; “DO YOU THINK THESE GALILEANS WERE WORSE SINNERS THAN ALL THE OTHER GALILEANS BECAUSE THEY SUFFERED THESE THINGS?

NO I TELL YOU! BUT UNLESS YOU REPENT YOU WILL ALL PERISH AS WELL

OR THOSE 18 WHO WERE KILLED WHEN THE TOWER IN SILOAM FELL ON THEM DO YOU THINK THEY WERE WORSE OFF OFFENDERS THAN ALL THE OTHERS WHO LIVE IN JERASULEM?

NO I TELL YOU ! BUT UNLESS YOU REPENT YOU WILL ALL PERISH AS WELL!”


IT IS TO THIS HORRIFIC END THAT JESUS ALLUDED TO IN CHAPTER 89 of Gospel of Barnabas
WHERE HE SPOKE WITH CONVICTION

AND said

“Verily I say unto you that the hypocrites and the gentiles make more prayers more alms and more fasts than the friends of God but because they have not faith they are not able to repent for love of God and so they are dammed




AND It is to this HORRIFIC end…….. that Judas clearly alluded to when HE spoke in the name of Jesus in Luke 23:27&28 and said

“Daughters of Jerasulem do not weep for me but weep for yourselves and for your children

For this is certain:

THE DAYS ARE COMING WHEN THEY WILL SAY BLESSED ARE THE BARREN

THE WOMBS THAT NEVER BORE CHILDREN AND THE BREASTS THAT NEVER NURSED





This is the dire message my brothers and sisters





The crucial question for everyone on this planet NOW remains….

will those.. who come to know the truth …..continue in this same deceit and lose their souls

like those before them…………

Or will they repent and save their souls………. the souls of their children

……………………………….. and all those around them
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