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GOD..................................................then history1
02-07-2015, 07:42 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2015 01:10 PM by Sajih.)
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GOD..................................................then history1
Warning: this post is not for the faint-hearted or illusionists that live................... in denial




This is the last post I will register for a while …………I will expose the malicious intent of the servants of the Devil who endeavour to discredit OUR achievements
which have obviously driven a deep dagger into their deceitful hearts


It is evident they have been bankrupted by the overwhelming damning evidence that we presented
for they no longer have any credit of Truth
left in their account to barter with

So instead of using solid evidence to reply to me................... they have resorted to the dirty game of propaganda


By attacking God , his prophets and his scripture............ through OUR Website.


By the same token this final post will SEPERATE ...................the men from the boys that claim to worship ......The One True God and believe in his messengers especially
Jesus.......Our only Master and teacher

At the end of this post each person will have to choose which side of the fence they want to be on

I ASSURE you ………………..there will be ........NO in between!







It is amazing how most people credit
Science to the movement of the earth in the way of hurricanes
tsunamis and earthquakes



The Beginning (NIV Bible )

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
(where was science?)
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God calledthe light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

(Where was science?)



6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.”And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.



(where was science?)


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.



(where was science?)




14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.


(where was science?)




20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day. (where was science ?)
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds:the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

(where was science?)



26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind ………….he even created the spirit that he breathed into mankind



(where was science?)



The only conclusion I can derive from all of the above amazing text is that
God alone ..................has FREEDOM
For when there was nothing................ HE ALONE............ CHOSE................ to............ create everything.



In fact God has no democracy as we can ascertain from the very beginning
In
Genesis 2:16&17
And he Lord God commanded the man ,

“You are free from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat it you will surely die.”


And he clearly punished them for not adhering to his warnings in


Genesis 3:16-19

16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”






Where was science when God ordered Noah into the boat before he commanded the floods to come upon the earth(genesis (
(7:9-10)


Where was science before God ordered the destruction of Sodom and Gommorah after saving lot and his family with the exclusion of his wife


Where was science when The Lord rained down burning sulphur on Sodom and Gomorrah genesis 19:24

Where was science in Exodus 8:6
Plague of frogs on Egypt

in Exodus 8:24 plague of flies

in Exodus 9:10-11 plague of boils
in Exodus 9:22-26 plague of hail
in Exodus 7:20-21water of Nile changed to blood

It is crystal clear the only reason God brought down his wrath on Egypt and its Pharaoh was the fact that they were in breach of the damning text of Exodus 20:3-7
In essence they were the enemy of God









Where was science when God commanded the Red Sea to split in have in the great exodus of the Israelites from Egypt
Exodus 14
21 Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the Lord drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land. The waters were divided, 22 and the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left.

Where was science when God commanded his angel to move the pillar of cloud

In exodus 14
19 Then the angel of God, who had been travelling in front of Israel’s army, withdrew and went behind them. The pillar of cloud also moved from in front and stood behind them, 20 coming between the armies of Egypt and Israel. Throughout the night the cloud brought darkness to the one side and light to the other side; so neither went near the other all night long.



Where was science when God opened up the earth to swallow his enemies in
Numbers 16:28-31



Where was science when God dried up the river Jordan in

Joshua 4:23


New International Version
For the LORD your God dried up the Jordan before you until you had crossed over. The LORD your God did to the Jordan what he had done to the Red Sea when he dried it up before us until we had crossed over.



Where was science when God divided the water in
2 kings 2:8

in ………….Numbers 20:6-11 water from a rock

And…..Exodus 17:5-6 water out of rock at Horeb e.t.c, e.t.c.




I want to ask everyone how many plagues famines earthquakes and hurricanes have we had in our history
When we look closer at these tragedies especially the recent
Haiti earthquake of 2010 the Japanese Tsunami 2011

And Hawaiian volcano (2014) that covered a Buddhist cemetery with some monuments and crosses

Any wise God- fearing man would ascertain that none of the above would be attributed to sciene but rather to the wrath of our Mighty God who continues to send us warning signs that he is far from happy with us for we are still in major breach of .........................you guessed it ...............Exodus 20:3-7

But tragically …….most ignorant people still.............. credit it………….to science.







P.S. the following content is not for the faint-hearted
No harm is intended other than to shine the light on the Truth of God ….that he and his prophets are NOT Terrorists
Those that cannot handle Truth…….please do not read!







Let us take a closer Look at the above evidence beginning with Exodus 12:31-32

It is clear the only reason God helped the Israelites by bringing all the above calamities on Pharaoh and Egypt was that he would not allow them to worship the Lord our God as they requested
Throughout the 430 years of oppression in Egypt (Exodus 12:40)

Already we can see that God is laying his law of circumcision in Exodus (12:43-50 and Exodus 13) way before the great Exodus to freedom.

It is obvious that God is not democratic




Exodus 1:15-22New International Version (NIV)

15 The king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, whose names were Shiphrah and Puah, 16 “When you are helping the Hebrew women during childbirth on the delivery stool, if you see that the baby is a boy, kill him; but if it is a girl, let her live.” 17 The midwives, however, feared God and did not do what the king of Egypt had told them to do; they let the boys live. 18 Then the king of Egypt summoned the midwives and asked them, “Why have you done this? Why have you let the boys live?”

19 The midwives answered Pharaoh, “Hebrew women are not like Egyptian women; they are vigorous and give birth before the midwives arrive.”

20 So God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous. 21 And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families of their own.

22 Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: “Every Hebrew boy that is born you must throw into the Nile, but let every girl live.”



from the above passage; I want to ask you all...........................................who is the terrorist here?

as attested to in

http://quran.com/2/49


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Exodus 12:37New (NIV)

37 The Israelites journeyed from Rameses to Sukkoth. There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children.



Exodus 14:5-11
It is the Egyptian army that came after the Israelites to kill them after they were allowed to safely leave Egypt

Here we have a nation of defenceless innocent men woman children and elderly trying to escape 430 years of oppression from a tyrant in Pharaoh.......who sends his army after the Israelites to slaughter them in cold blood............ after he had allowed them to leave in peace.
If it was not for our Lord Gods endless Mercy and compassion then the Israelites would have suffered genocide

I want to ask you all ….who is the terrorist here?



………

Genesis 14:8-18
Reason Abraham went to war was that his nephew Lot also a prophet was kidnapped.

Who is the terrorist here?



Numbers 20:14-21
Israelis refused safe passage from Edomite - they turned away after threatened with war

Numbers 21:21-24
Sihon and Og with their huge army declare war on the undermanned and ill equipped Israelites
After Israeli messengers asked to pass peacefully through country.

Who is the terrorist here?



Numbers 21:1-3
The Caananite king of Arad with his mighty army attacks the peaceful undermanned and ill equipped Israelites
God delivered them to victory

And who is the terrorist here?

Where does the concept of if someone slaps you on one cheek turn to them the other also come from? (luke 6:29)



When we focus closely on these explosive texts it is not hard at all to establish
that the concept of
“ an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”
Is in play here way before the law came down on Blessed........... Moses

What is also very apparent from all of the above verses................. is that
God bless his name


fought along his prophets through his angels who held swords.............. as we can clearly ascertain from the next damning text of



Numbers 22:21-32 (NIV)
Balaam’s Donkey
21 Balaam got up in the morning, saddled his donkey and went with the Moabite officials. 22 But God was very angry when he went, and the angel of the LORD stood in the road to oppose him. Balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD standing in the road with a drawn sword in his hand, it turned off the road into a field. Balaam beat it to get it back on the road.


24 Then the angel of the LORD stood in a narrow path through the vineyards, with walls on both sides. 25 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, it pressed close to the wall, crushing Balaam’s foot against it. So he beat the donkey again.
26 Then the angel of the LORD moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, it lay down under Balaam, and he was angryand beat it with his staff. 28 Then the LORD opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”


29 Balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now.”
30 The donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your own donkey, which you have always ridden, to this day? Have I been in the habit of doing this to you?”
“No,” he said.
31 Then the LORD opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the road with his sword drawn. So he bowed low and fell facedown.
32 The angel of the LORD asked him, “Why have you beaten your donkey these three times? I have come here to oppose you because your path is a reckless one before me.[a] 33 The donkey saw me and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away, I would certainly have killed you by now, but I would have spared it.”

This goes hand in hand with what Jesus prophesied in Luke 13:1-5 and revelations 19:11-21 especially verse 15!


So as we can see God sent his angel with a sword to help the prophets fight the enemies of God
Just as they fought with Abraham in

Genesis 14: 19:
And he blessed Abram (Abraham) saying
“Blessed be Abram by God of Most high creator of heaven and earth who delivered your enemies into your hands.”



Just as we saw God send his angels to protect Jesus from harm in


208 of Gospel of Barnabas

Whereupon every scribe and Pharisee with the elders of the people took up stones to stone Jesus WHO VANISHED from their eyes and went out of the temple. And then through the great desire that they had to slay Jesus , blinded with fury and hatred, they struck one another in such wise that there died a thousand men;
And they polluted the holy temple .(ALLELUIA!!!)
As God bless his name promised in Isiah 41:13

(so where does the concept of love your enemies come from?)


And God reminds his people in



Exodus 20 King James Version (KJV)
20 And God spake all these words, saying, (through the prophecy of Jesus and his angel Gabriel as we well know from acts 7:38)
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

( REMEMBER: Acts 7 testimony of Holy Spirit who spoke through Stephen)



3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; (last half of verse is tampered as proven in Ezerkiel 18:20)


6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:


11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: (corrupted verse God does not sleep or get tired!)
wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.


13 Thou shalt not kill.



Let us stop and ponder on the above verse
This can be translated in three ways.
1. thy shall not kill innocent souls
2. for to kill an innocent soul means your life will be taken
3.if an enemy comes to kill you or your family you can certainly kill them



The best translation for the above is ……..surah 5:32
Because of that we decreed upon the children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption (done) in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he has saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. (meaning the law) then indeed many of them, (even) after that , throughout the land were transgressors.



I want to ask you this
In the simplest terms

Have you ever approached a hen sitting on her eggs and tried to steal her eggs without being attacked?

Have you ever tried killing the babies of a cat or dog or lion or tiger without being attacked by the parent tooth and nail?

Which mother or father in the world would not kill to protect his children
from anyone who came to kill them ?

will you stand idle if a pedofhile raped your son or daughter?

Then how do you except our Lord God to stand idol when his
loyal servants are being attacked by vicious animals that neither respect life or him

All of the above are perfect examples of an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth




14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.



18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.
21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.



22 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.
23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.
25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon




God continues to lay down HIS LAW


Exodus 23 New International Version (NIV)
Laws of Justice and Mercy
23 “Do not spread false reports. Do not help a guilty person by being a malicious witness.
2 “Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong. When you give testimony in a lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd, 3 and do not show favoritism to a poor person in a lawsuit.


(Ask yourselves : Does the above exist in our world today?)



4 “If you come across your enemy’s ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it. 5 If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help them with it.
6 “Do not deny justice to your poor people in their lawsuits. 7 Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death,for I will not acquit the guilty.


(Does the above exist in our world today?)

8 “Do not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds those who see and twists the words of the innocent.
9 “Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt.



(Does the above exist in our world today?)


Sabbath Laws
10 “For six years you are to sow your fields and harvest the crops, 11 but during the seventh year let the land lie unplowed and unused. Then the poor among your people may get food from it, and the wild animals may eat what is left. Do the same with your vineyard and your olive grove.
12 “Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest, and so that the slave born in your household and the foreigner living among you may be refreshed.


13 “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.
The Three Annual Festivals
14 “Three times a year you are to celebrate a festival to me.
15 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread; for seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
“No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
16 “Celebrate the Festival of Harvest with the first
fruits of the crops you sow in your field.


“Celebrate the Festival of In
gathering at the end of the year, when you gather in your crops from the field.
17 “Three times a year all the men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD.


Take a look at the next detrimental verse

18 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast.
“The fat of my festival offerings must not be kept until morning.


For over 2000 yrs the Christians have been offering the blood of Jesus who was never crucified
As a sacrificial lamb who was slaughtered for the sins of mankind
Clearly defying God and his law (refer Isiah 49:26 Rev 16:1-6)


19 “Bring the best of the first fruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
“not cook a Do young goat in its mother’s milk.


God’s Angel to Prepare the Way
20 “See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.23 My angel will go ahead of you and bring you into the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites and Jebusites, and I will wipe them out.24 Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices.You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces. 25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you, 26 and none will miscarry or be barren in your land. I will give you a full life span.


27 “I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter. I will make all your enemies turn their backs and run. 28 I will send the hornet ahead of you to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. 29 But I will not drive them out in a single year, because the land would become desolate and the wild animals too numerous for you. 30 Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have increased enough to take possession of the land.


31 “I will establish your borders from the Red Sea[a] to the Mediterranean Sea,[b]and from the desert to the Euphrates River. I will give into your hands the people who live in the land, and you will drive them out before you. 32 Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. 33 Do not let them live in your land or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you.”

It is clear once again that God does not forgive his enemies nor tolerates any rival Gods but rather wipes them out.
Once again we see God sending down his angels to help and protect HIS prophets and HIS people



We can ascertain how Gods prophets and people were blessed by God in the next text of



Numbers 23

Numbers 23 New International Version (NIV)
Balaam’s First Message
23 Balaam said, “Build me seven altars here, and prepare seven bulls and seven rams for me.” 2 Balak did as Balaam said, and the two of them offered a bull and a ram on each altar.
3 Then Balaam said to Balak, “Stay here beside your offering while I go aside. Perhaps the LORD will come to meet with me. Whatever he reveals to me I will tell you.” Then he went off to a barren height.



4 God met with him, and Balaam said, “I have prepared seven altars, and on each altar I have offered a bull and a ram.”
5 The LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth and said, “Go back to Balak and give him this word.”
6 So he went back to him and found him standing beside his offering, with all the Moabite officials. 7 Then Balaam spoke his message:
“Balak brought me from Aram,
the king of Moab from the eastern mountains.
‘Come,’ he said, ‘curse Jacob for me;
come, denounce Israel.’
8 How can I curse
those whom God has not cursed?
How can I denounce
those whom the LORD has not denounced?
9 From the rocky peaks I see them,
from the heights I view them.
I see a people who live apart
and do not consider themselves one of the nations.
10 Who can count the dust of Jacob
or number even a fourth of Israel?
Let me die the death of the righteous,
and may my final end be like theirs!”
11 Balak said to Balaam, “What have you done to me? I brought you to curse my enemies, but you have done nothing but bless them!”
12 He answered, “Must I not speak what the LORD puts in my mouth?”



Balaam’s Second Message
13 Then Balak said to him, “Come with me to another place where you can see them; you will not see them all but only the outskirts of their camp. And from there, curse them for me.” 14 So he took him to the field of Zophim on the top of Pisgah, and there he built seven altars and offered a bull and a ram on each altar.
15 Balaam said to Balak, “Stay here beside your offering while I meet with him over there.”
16 The LORD met with Balaam and put a word in his mouth and said, “Go back to Balak and give him this word.”
17 So he went to him and found him standing beside his offering, with the Moabite officials. Balak asked him, “What did the LORD say?”
18 Then he spoke his message:


“Arise, Balak, and listen;
hear me, son of Zippor.
19 God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?
20 I have received a command to bless;
he has blessed, and I cannot change it.
21 “No misfortune is seen in Jacob,
no misery observed[a] in Israel.
The LORD their God is with them;
the shout of the King is among them.
22 God brought them out of Egypt;
they have the strength of a wild ox.
23 There is no divination against[b] Jacob,
no evil omens against[c] Israel.
It will now be said of Jacob
and of Israel, ‘See what God has done!’
24 The people rise like a lioness;
they rouse themselves like a lion
that does not rest till it devours its prey
and drinks the blood of its victims.”
25 Then Balak said to Balaam, “Neither curse them at all nor bless them at all!”
26 Balaam answered, “Did I not tell you I must do whatever the LORD says?”



Balaam’s Third Message
27 Then Balak said to Balaam, “Come, let me take you to another place.Perhaps it will please God to let you curse them for me from there.” 28 And Balak took Balaam to the top of Peor, overlooking the wasteland.
29 Balaam said, “Build me seven altars here, and prepare seven bulls and seven rams for me.” 30 Balak did as Balaam had said, and offered a bull and a ram on each altar





& numbers 24


Numbers 24 New International Version (NIV)
24 Now when Balaam saw that it pleased the LORD to bless Israel, he did not resort to divination as at other times, but turned his face toward the wilderness. 2 When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came on him 3 and he spoke his message:
“The prophecy of Balaam son of Beor,
the prophecy of one whose eye sees clearly,
4 the prophecy of one who hears the words of God,
who sees a vision from the Almighty,[a]
who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:
5 “How beautiful are your tents, Jacob,
your dwelling places, Israel!
6 “Like valleys they spread out,
like gardens beside a river,
like aloes planted by the LORD,
like cedars beside the waters.
7 Water will flow from their buckets;
their seed will have abundant water.
“Their king will be greater than Agag;
their kingdom will be exalted.
8 “God brought them out of Egypt;
they have the strength of a wild ox.
They devour hostile nations
and break their bones in pieces;
with their arrows they pierce them.
9 Like a lion they crouch and lie down,
like a lioness—who dares to rouse them?
“May those who bless you be blessed
and those who curse you be cursed!”


10 Then Balak’s anger burned against Balaam. He struck his hands together and said to him, “I summoned you to curse my enemies, but you have blessed them these three times. 11 Now leave at once and go home! I said I would reward you handsomely, but the LORD has kept you from being rewarded.”
12 Balaam answered Balak, “Did I not tell the messengers you sent me, 13 ‘Even if Balak gave me all the silver and gold in his palace, I could not do anything of my own accord, good or bad, to go beyond the command of the LORD—and I must say only what the LORD says’? 14 Now I am going back to my people, but come, let me warn you of what this people will do to your people in days to come.”



Balaam’s Fourth Message
15 Then he spoke his message:
“The prophecy of Balaam son of Beor,
the prophecy of one whose eye sees clearly,
16 the prophecy of one who hears the words of God,
who has knowledge from the Most High,
who sees a vision from the Almighty,
who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:
17 “I see him, but not now;
I behold him, but not near.
A star will come out of Jacob;
a scepter will rise out of Israel.
He will crush the foreheads of Moab,
the skulls[b] of[c] all the people of Sheth.[d]
18 Edom will be conquered;
Seir, his enemy, will be conquered,
but Israel will grow strong.
19 A ruler will come out of Jacob
and destroy the survivors of the city.”
Balaam’s Fifth Message
20 Then Balaam saw Amalek and spoke his message:
“Amalek was first among the nations,
but their end will be utter destruction.”
Balaam’s Sixth Message
21 Then he saw the Kenites and spoke his message:
“Your dwelling place is secure,
your nest is set in a rock;
22 yet you Kenites will be destroyed
when Ashur takes you captive.”



Balaam’s Seventh Message
23 Then he spoke his message:
“Alas! Who can live when God does this?[e]
24 Ships will come from the shores of Cyprus;
they will subdue Ashur and Eber,
but they too will come to ruin.”
25 Then Balaam got up and returned home, and Balak went his own way.
(note the importance of 7 messages that tie in with Gods victory number… 7 …Alleluia!)






take special note of… numbers 24:4
In the oracle where they worship God by prostrating to him
(Prostating to God was in effect over around 4000 years before the appearance of Mohammad)

4 the prophecy of one who hears the words of God,
who sees a vision from the Almighty,[a]
who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:



If the ignorant world bothered to read the scriptures properly ..and understand what Jesus meant when he stated with conviction in

Matthew 22:29
“You are in error because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God”.......

Then they would have adhered to the warnings of our great God regarding his Chosen Prophets and people in


1 Chronicles 16:22
22 saying, “Touch not my anointed ones,
do my prophets no harm!”
And

Psalm 105:15
15 saying, “Touch not my anointed ones,
do my prophets no harm!”










Numbers 25:1-5
God orders Moses through his angel to kill those who gave worship to other Gods
(Exodus 20:3-7)

Numbers 25:16 -18 God orders Moses to treat Midianites as enemies because they treated the Israelites
as enemies when they decieved them with the affair




Numbers 1:1-3New International Version (NIV)
The Census
1 The LORD (through his angel) spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: 2 “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. 3 You and Aaron are to count according to their divisions all the men in Israel who are twenty years old or more and able to serve in the army.
(God orders his prophets to fight against evil…………I did not order them)

Deuteronomy 13 (NIV)


The following text can be applied to the number 1 advocate of the devil in Paul and his partner the high priest Ananais as clearly covered in parts 2&3 (other religious topics)


Worshiping Other Gods


13 [a]If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.




6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.


12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely,[b] both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, 17 and none of the condemned things[c] are to be found in your hands. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors— 18 because you obey the LORD your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.



Deuteronomy 19:21
21 Your eye shall not pity: life shall be for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.



Deuteronomy 20:10-20
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.



16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a]them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God.



19 When you lay siege to a city for a long time, fighting against it to capture it, do not destroy its trees by putting an ax to them, because you can eat their fruit. Do not cut them down. Are the trees people, that you should besiege them?[b] 20 However, you may cut down trees that you know are not fruit tree sand use them to build siege works until the city at war with you falls.
Footnotes
Numbers 30 &31 God commands Moses
These are Gods commands that Moses adhered to whether you like them or not they are in our bible



And again we see God severely punishing his enemies in

Numbers 31 New International Version (NIV)

Vengeance on the Midianites
31 The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.”
3 So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites so that they may carry out the LORD’s vengeance on them. 4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel.” 5 So twelve thousand men armed for battle, a thousand from each tribe, were supplied from the clans of Israel. 6 Moses sent them into battle, a thousand from each tribe, along with Phinehas son of Eleazar, the priest, who took with him articles from the sanctuary and the trumpets for signaling.



7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.



13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.
15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.



19 “Anyone who has killed someone or touched someone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days. On the third and seventh days you must purify yourselves and your captives. 20 Purify every garment as well as everything made of leather, goat hair or wood.”
21 Then Eleazar the priest said to the soldiers who had gone into battle, “This is what is required by the law that the LORD gave Moses: 22 Gold, silver, bronze, iron, tin, lead 23 and anything else that can withstand fire must be put through the fire, and then it will be clean. But it must also be purified with the water of cleansing. And whatever cannot withstand fire must be put through that water.24 On the seventh day wash your clothes and you will be clean. Then you may come into the camp.”



Dividing the Spoils
25 The LORD said to Moses, 26 “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured.27 Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community. 28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the LORD one out of every five hundred, whether people, cattle, donkeys or sheep. 29 Take this tribute from their half share and give it to Eleazar the priest as the LORD’s part. 30 From the Israelites’ half, select one out of every fifty, whether people, cattle, donkeys, sheep or other animals. Give them to the Levites, who are responsible for the care of the LORD’s tabernacle.”31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.



32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.
36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:
337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;
38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;
39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;
40 16,000 people, of whom the tribute for the LORD was 32.



41 Moses gave the tribute to Eleazar the priest as the LORD’s part, as the LORDcommanded Moses.
42 The half belonging to the Israelites, which Moses set apart from that of the fighting men— 43 the community’s half—was 337,500 sheep, 44 36,000 cattle,45 30,500 donkeys 46 and 16,000 people. 47 From the Israelites’ half, Moses selected one out of every fifty people and animals, as the LORD commanded him, and gave them to the Levites, who were responsible for the care of theLORD’s tabernacle.



48 Then the officers who were over the units of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—went to Moses 49 and said to him, “Your servants have counted the soldiers under our command, and not one is missing. 50 So we have brought as an offering to the LORD the gold articles each of us acquired—armlets, bracelets, signet rings, earrings and necklaces—to make atonement for ourselves before the LORD.”
51 Moses and Eleazar the priest accepted from them the gold—all the crafted articles. 52 All the gold from the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds that Moses and Eleazar presented as a gift to the LORD weighed 16,750 shekels.[a] 53 Each soldier had taken plunder for himself. 54 Moses and Eleazar the priest accepted the gold from the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds and brought it into the tent of meeting as a memorial for the Israelites before the LORD.


Once again it is crystal clear that God is not democratic and was clearly not joking
when he vowed to punish those that go after other Gods and for generations


Anyone wise man who analysed his scriptures properly………. would clearly understand the detrimental meaning of the above verses and why these genocides occurred.


And they certainly would be under no illusion…………that what Jesus prophesied in Revelations in way of punishment especially that of ……. 19 and 20
………….will certainly come to fruition.


A perfect example of Gods wrath in our tragic history would be the crusader war the Armenian genocide & both world war 1&2
Yes my brothers and sisters as you can see these are just some examples of Gods wrath on the idolaters
Anyone who believes otherwise is in an illusion and living in denial.







32:6-13 reason for Israelites going into dessert for 40 years was because they did not follow God wholeheartedly


6 Moses said to the Gadites and Reubenites, “Should your fellow Israelites go to war while you sit here? 7 Why do you discourage the Israelites from crossing over into the land the LORD has given them? 8 This is what your fathers did when I sent them from Kadesh Barnea to look over the land. 9 After they went up to the Valley of Eshkol and viewed the land, they discouraged the Israelites from entering the land the LORD had given them.


10 The LORD’s anger was aroused that day and he swore this oath: 11 ‘Because they have not followed me wholeheartedly, not one of those who were twenty years old or more when they came up out of Egypt will see the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob— 12 not one except Caleb son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite and Joshua son of Nun, for they followed the LORD wholeheartedly.’ 13 The LORD’s anger burned against Israel and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until the whole generation of those who had done evil in his sight was gone.
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Numbers 32:14 &15 punishment for turning away from The Lord is destruction

14 “And here you are, a brood of sinners, standing in the place of your fathers and making the LORD even more angry with Israel. 15 If you turn away from following him, he will again leave all this people in the wilderness, and you will be the cause of their destruction.”








32:20 -22 more proof God fought his enemies through Moses his prophet





20 Then Moses said to them, “If you will do this—if you will arm yourselves before the LORD for battle 21 and if all of you who are armed cross over the Jordan before the LORD until he has driven his enemies out before him— 22 then when the land is subdued before the LORD, you may return and be free from your obligation to the LORD and to Israel. And this land will be your possession before the LORD.

(again…….. where does the concept of love your enemies come from )

Numbers 33:50-55

God orders Moses through his angel to attack Caanan because they worship other Gods
(exodus 20:3-7)


50 On the plains of Moab by the Jordan across from Jericho the LORD said to Moses, 51 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you cross the Jordan into Canaan, 52 drive out all the inhabitants of the land before you. Destroy all their carved images and their cast idols, and demolish all their high places.53 Take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given you the land to possess. 54 Distribute the land by lot, according to your clans. To a larger group give a larger inheritance, and to a smaller group a smaller one. Whatever falls to them by lot will be theirs. Distribute it according to your ancestral tribes.
55 “‘But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live. 56 And then I will do to you what I plan to do to them.’”










We can see from the very beginning God severely punishing those that go after other Gods and by the sword
This goes hand in hand with the dire warnings of Jesus in…Luke 13:1-5 and Rev 19:11-20 (note verse 15) about what will happen to the world come ………….Judgement Day!

Deutronomy 2:7 Israelites did not lack anything for 40 years and in the dessert (how great is our God)

Deutronomy 2:24 God fights with Israelites his chosen people to victory

Deutronomy 2:26-35 Israelites try to pass peacefully through beauon but refused entry God delivers them the land after the battle
Deutronomy 3:1-3,
King of bashAn sends army to fight Israelites




Gods angels clearly were with the prophets….. just like they were with Jesus in the psalms especially psalms 91 & 92 and …….chapters 73 ,152 ,208,of Blessed Barnabas





Here are 32 verses of Child sacrifice that people offered to their Gods

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Child-sacrifice
I put it to you
Are they not terrorists ?


The list goes on……………. and on ………………………..
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02-08-2015, 09:48 PM
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Nice piece of writing Sajih. That should put the doubters in their place.

I can't imagine how many hours of your time this took to research and write.

On behalf of all the silent lurkers around here who only ever read these posts (and never login to comment)...we thank you very much.

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02-09-2015, 04:27 PM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2015 08:25 PM by Nathan.)
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I just love the enormous arrogance of people that truly believe God created Earth and the "heavens" at the same time. Earth is only 4 billion years old. The universe is about 14 billion years old. If God made both the Earth and the heavens at the same time, shouldn't they both be the same age?

But that's not what bothers me about this nonsense. What bothers me is that people believe that God made all those stars in the sky just so the Earth can have light during night time. You gotta be kiddin me, right?

Do you have any idea what is involved in making just 1 star? All that energy that a star generates and the complex life cycle it goes through, and the incredible distances that they are from Earth. If you can travel 300,000 kilometres every second (which is the speed of light), it would take you about 4 years to reach the nearest star to Earth besides our own Sun. All of the other stars we see at night are much further away than that. Some of those "lights in the sky" are entire galaxies billions of light years away from us, with hundreds of millions of stars in each of those galaxies themselves.

Compared to the contents of the known universe, Earth is a tiny insignificant speck of dust that is nothing exceptional except for the fact that intelligent life sprouted up from it. This happened because of a combination of factors that is required for life to evolve. Factors like water, vegetation, not too close or too far from a Sun, a breathable athmosphere, etc.

Before you say that it was God that created these conditions for us, these factors are not that rare in the universe. Well, it is rare, but even if only 1 planet in a BILLION have these conditions needed for life, then that means there are many thousands of planets just like Earth out there somewher in the universe. Mathematically speaking, these factors are likely to have occured by random chance, on several thousand of planets in just our own Milky Way Galaxy alone. And there are hundreds of millions of other galaxies in the universe, with millions of planets in total that has all the factors needed to sustain life. I can tell you right now with absolute certainty...intelligent life has evolved on some of those other planets too.

Maybe some of these alien civilizations have already died out millions of years ago when their star reached the end of its life cycle. Or maybe some of them have just started out recently (like us here on Earth). But mathematically speaking, the odds of Earth being the ONLY planet where intelligent life evolved anywhere in the universe, is practically zero. To give you an example of this, just look at our lottery winners every week. The odds of winning the lottery are millions to one, but someone usually wins every week. Imagine if one year we only had 1 person win the lottery in January, and then for the remainder of the entire year no one wins the lottery ever again. This is absurd and will never happen. Some lucky bastard always wins the lottery every week. So to say that Earth is the only planet with intelligent life, is like saying there will only be one lottery winner for a whole year, even though millions of people play the lottery every week, and they have a lottery draw 52 times a year.

But even us here on Earth is on borrowed time. Eventually, in about 3 billion years or so, our Sun will turn into a Red Giant and destroy all life on Earth. If the human race can actually survive for another 3 billion years (which is doubtful because of the way we are treating the environment and each other), we will have to move away from Earth before the Sun destroys it. This will involve technology much more sophisticated than we have now. The human race is not capable of a planetary evacuation with our current level of technology. But in 3 billion years from now, we will have technology that makes the space shuttle look like Fred Flinstone's car.

But to all the people that truly believe God created the universe just for us Earthlings, I gotta ask...
Why woud God make such an enormous universe full of burning and exploding stars, and full of entire galaxies at distances that we could never reach, all for the sake of Earth having a night light? Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just create one solar system, one Sun for us, and a couple of moons for Earth to have a nice light at night time? Even if you wanted to make a sky full of stars, it would not have been neccessary to make so many galaxies that are so far away from us that they they each look like one tiny light in the sky. Several million stars just in the Milky Way galaxy would have been more than enough to light up Earth's skies with stars. And what about the purpose of Venus and Jupiter and Mars, and all the other planets that share our local solar system? For that matter, what about all the other billions of planets from the other galaxies that cannot be seen with our eyes and are not emitting any light at all (only stars emit light)? We do not need those planets to survive on Earth. Those planets don't even provide light to Earth like the stars do. They're not even mentioned in the bible. So why would God bother to create these useless planets? There are other objects in the universe that do not emit light like asteroids and comets. The bible would have us believe that God had made billions of planets and asteroids and comets around the universe for no reason at all. Wow...the arrogance is mind-boggling to say the least.

I find it amusing that a grown adult could believe such nonsense from a book written in a time when mankind was much younger and much more naive. I'm not saying God did not create anything, I'm just saying that the bible doesn't give enough credit to God for his miraculous achievments in creating the universe. In fact, it is rather an insult to God that the incredible things that He created in the universe, with all those stars and galaxies and staggering distances, has been trivialized by the bible as simply to "give light on the Earth". It's like asking for a glass of water, and someone dumps the entire Atlantic Ocean in your mouth. It's a bit too much just for a glass of water. Likewise, creating billions of stars and millions of galaxies is a bit much simply to give Earth some light during the night.

Since modern man now knows what stars and galaxies are, to still claim that God made them for our night lights shows a staggering amount of arrogance and Narcissism. Early man did not know about the stars and galaxies, and how far away they were. In their eyes...they were just simply light for their night skies. But please do not make the claim that God was as ignorant and naive as early man was 2000 years ago. Isn't it obvious that this book was written by men who knew nothing about the universe? Isn't that more plausable than saying God created his most incredible achievment (which is the entire universe), just for the sake of providing some light to the side of the Earth that happens to be facing away from the Sun during its orbit?

I truly wish that we can move on from the Bible and make our world a much better place. Mankind has evolved now. We don't need an ancient book full of out-dated nonsense, written by men, NOT GOD, to control our lives anymore. Yes, the world is messed up right now, but that's not because we don't believe in the bible. It's because of corrupt and greed by powerful corporations and powerful politicians & leaders around the world. God created us with free choice, and this is what happened. It's up to us to fix our own mess.

Grow up people. It's time to respect God for his true powers, and for what he truly is.

Thank you for listening. I hope I have put some sense in some of you.

Now I'm ready to be accused of hating God, being evil, not believing in God, trying to corrupt your mind, and whatever else you want to conveniently throw at me to maintain your delusional state of mind about the Bible. Because you cannot argue back with logic, I know I will simply be called a non believer and devil or whatever. I'm expecting it, and I'm ready for it.

May God show you the logic,

Nathan
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02-09-2015, 06:15 PM
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That was amazing! Thank you Sajih for your wonderful examples of the power and greatness of our God.

I'm on your side of the fence...which is God's side.

Your Brother always,
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02-10-2015, 09:26 PM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2015 10:09 PM by Marwan.)
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Hi Nathan,
Welcome to our forums.

Sajih is taking some personal leave for now, but meanwhile I would like to address some of the points you mentioned by offering my point of view…

Firstly, the Earth does not have to be the same age as the universe. God could have already created the universe long before He decided to create the Earth and us. We cannot begin to comprehend time on the scale that God would. A million or billion years to God could be like how 1 minute feels to us. 1 day for God does not have to mean a 24 hour day like we experience here on Earth. A day for God might mean millions of years in Earth time. An infinite being like God would have a totally different perception of time and space.

With that said, in Genesis God could have been describing the creation of Earth and just our solar system (i.e. “the heavens”), which both are 4 billion years old. Our Sun is what gives daylight to Earth, so when God said “let there be light”, that could have been when the Sun came into existence. So it makes sense that He would have had to create our entire solar system at the same time that He created Earth. This all could have happened long after he created the universe beyond our solar system.

As for the Bible describing the stars as giving “light on the Earth”, this would have been the only way to explain them to mankind back then. As you said, mankind was younger and more naïve back then, so what would you have God tell them otherwise to describe those stars? God never said that their sole purpose was for Earth to have light during the night. What gives you the authority to make that assumption?

As for the other planets and galaxies that God created. Again you make assumptions that are not valid. For example, how do you know that we are the only people that God created in the universe? Maybe on some distant galaxy, God had created another race of people just like us. He may have done this numerous times around the universe. We might not even be his first creations. You said so yourself…the odds of us being the only planet with intelligent life is zero. This is not proof that the bible is false, it only proves that God may have created people elsewhere in the universe. Maybe he created these great distances between galaxies so that no matter how smart we get, we would never be able to travel to another galaxy to meet His other creations. Maybe he doesn’t want us to meet for whatever reason. God does not need to explain any of this in the bible or anywhere else.

Lastly, as we have said so many times already…we know that the bible was written by man and we know all about Constantine and his meeting, we even mentioned it in our 10 part documentary. However, the bible was put together from various religious teachings of the time, some which dated back to the time of Jesus. There was enough of the truth in it for someone to find if they looked hard enough. This is what Sajih had discovered. Then Sajih discovered other holy books like the Gospel of Barnabas and the Holy Quran, which also contained sacred texts. Many of these texts were identical with some of the content from the bible. Unfortunately, there has been too many alterations in the bible throughout history, and this has only made it even harder to find the truth hidden in the bible.

Instead of trying to prove how clever you are, you should either join us and hear the message that we are trying to spread, or stop feeling threatened by us and leave us alone. We are not recruiting cult members or knocking door-to-door like Jehovah’s Witnesses. We are not asking people for money. No one paid us for this website or for making the 10 videos. It was all funded by Sajih’s own money, so that he can share this truth that he found with the whole world at the same time. What better way to do this than with a global audience using the internet? I just helped him put it all together with the videos and this website.

People like you only waste our time and are a distraction from spreading the truth. As our member Eric so nicely put it…take your manure elsewhere. Either that, or save your soul and join us on our journey of enlightenment.

God Bless.
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02-11-2015, 08:14 AM (This post was last modified: 02-11-2015 09:33 AM by DavidS.)
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Dear Nathan,

You hate God. You are being evil. You don't believe in God. And stop trying to corrupt our minds.

You are a non believer and a devil.

Now go away.

Your Friend,
David
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02-14-2015, 10:12 AM
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Nathan seems to be the kind of guy that can really be entertaining at a party.

Tell me Nathan...have you ever done clown work?
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